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bobohead
So I am just going to vent here maybe just a little bit. I had a rough night last night, it all started with a stupid PB&J sandwhich...I dont even like jelly, but as I was watching my boyfriend truely enjoy it I got extremely jealous...I was craving, and wanting just a bite soooo bad...I did refrain, which caused me to be in a pretty foul mood, and so as I was explaining to him what was going on, i could tell he was a little upset. He says I act like I have the most extreme case...Right now I know it is not the most extreme case, and i really consider myself lucky that as of right now all i have is celiac and nothing more that i know of. and if i am obsessing about what i am eating, it is only because i want to make sure i get it right, and until i feel completely comfortable being able to walk into the kitchen and grab a snack, (just knowing its gluten-free) then I am going to obsess on it, because I dont want to go back to feeling the way I was before going gluten free. Anyhow I started crying, over a stupid sandwhich, and how I wanted to be able to eat a good pizza again. about how i just want to be able to eat anything and not worry about the pain i will be in later...I did not cheat!! which I am proud of, but the break down is not something i want to deal with either..

I called my mom and talked to her about it. she is always so understanding, she watched me as a kid struggle with the whole eating thing. she said that from before Dx and after Dx was like night and day. she said i was miserable. I also found out that I did test positive on the blood test when I was 6 so thats good. I also talked to my aunt who is up visiting my mom right now. She has Fibromyalgia(sp?) She said she does a detox once a year, and goes gluten free, and feels so much better on the diet, so i told her she should just stick to it, she said she would try her hardest...I thought it was cool, she also gets the lundberg rice cakes, which if i want i have to order off the internet, so she said she will start sending me care packages. It was just a good call, and at the end of the phone call we were all laughing...

It is so hard and frustrating, I dont understand how to get over the cravings, I have been doing very well not giving in, but this is so hard, i dont want to start crying everytime I see someone eating something I cannot have. I dont want to isolate myself from people i like and care about. I need to get over this, and get better..

thanks for listening.
Ridgewalker
Vent away, Jodi! We know how you feel.

I am lucky, and had virtually no withdrawal, and have no problem with cravings. BUT-- what gets me the worst is the convenience factor. I miss being able to just pick up dinner and not have to worry about what to cook...

Both of my kids and myself are gluten-free. On busy days, when we're out shopping and running errands till late... There have been a couple times that I've been nearly in tears at the thought of going home and having to cook dinner... when it used to be an option to just grab pizza and everyone would be taken care of.

Most of the time it's ok, but sometimes it just sucks-- no doubt about it.

But I really do feel a little better about it every day. Now every once in awhile, I'll pick up food from Wendy's- a bunch of burgers with the toppings, fries, no buns- and we put the burgers on homemade buns when I get home. As long as I have buns made, this is still pretty convenient.

And you just really do get used to it. It just takes time.

In any case, I feel your pain. A couple nights ago, my husband made himself chicken sandwiches (breaded, on soft white buns) and Velveeta shells and cheese.... I asked him to hand me his plate, and I just stood there and SMELLED it for a few seconds. LOL.... pitiful...
tarnalberry
it's a grieving process - and it's fair to accept that it's going to be hard to just give up something (as though it were dead and never again to be a part of your life - 'cause it won't be). it's all the harder when we feel that life should be 'fair' for some reason, and then we see other people getting to eat it. the 'well, then why can't I? that's not fair!' thoughts start floating around, even though - logically, "fair" has nothing to do with anything in life like that. it takes time to get past it, and it's cyclic, so you'll go through it every now and again. accept it'll happen, and it's ok.
bobohead
QUOTE (tarnalberry @ Jan 25 2008, 11:01 AM) *
it's a grieving process - and it's fair to accept that it's going to be hard to just give up something (as though it were dead and never again to be a part of your life - 'cause it won't be). it's all the harder when we feel that life should be 'fair' for some reason, and then we see other people getting to eat it. the 'well, then why can't I? that's not fair!' thoughts start floating around, even though - logically, "fair" has nothing to do with anything in life like that. it takes time to get past it, and it's cyclic, so you'll go through it every now and again. accept it'll happen, and it's ok.



Thank You both for the replys....I was doing really well with the whole withdraw thing for the past few months...it just got to me bad last night....and this whole fair thing...I know life isnt fair...lol but that doesnt mean in my mind i think that it shouldnt be... biggrin.gif It would be easier if everything was fair, but its just not possible.

I know I have come a long ways though, because the last time I was like this I broke down and went to taco bell, So even though it took alot out of me, i know I have grown stronger as a person already...to be able to say no, is for me , like a kid sayin no to candy..hahaha....but I am learning....
sickchick

First of all I have CRIED over stupid things like sandwiches I understand that frustration cool.gif

Second I am a chronic sniffer. It started at Christmas, I sniff all the food everyone else is going to eat and then I am totally fine! wink.gif laugh.gif

Be well!
sickchick
ravenwoodglass
QUOTE (bobohead @ Jan 25 2008, 09:11 AM) *
I know I have come a long ways though, because the last time I was like this I broke down and went to taco bell, So even though it took alot out of me, i know I have grown stronger as a person already...to be able to say no, is for me , like a kid sayin no to candy..hahaha....but I am learning....


It is hard at first and as stated there is a greiving process to it all. I just want to say good for you for getting through it this time without caving into the desire. You'll get through this, don't feel bad about feeling bad sometimes. If you can reward yourself for being strong, it doesn't have to be much, it doesn't even need to be something material, just something that will allow you to say 'atta girl', you deserve it.
tarnalberry
QUOTE (bobohead @ Jan 25 2008, 08:11 AM) *
but I am learning....


don't forget - for the next time - that the thing with learning is that it doesn't mean there will come a day when you can be confident there won't ever be a next time. it'll hit you again - there's always going to be something (and probably something that seems dumb at the time, 'cause that's how life is) that puts you over the edge and you grieve it all over again. but that learning makes the grieving a little easier. kinda like a comfy sock. biggrin.gif
Ursa Major
You might want to have something on hand....... like some gluten-free pizza in the freezer that you can just heat up, or some special cookies, or something else you really, really like, that you can grab and eat when those moments come. That way you won't feel deprived, and you feel that you don't need gluten to enjoy food!
NoGluGirl
Dear bobohead,
I am so here with you! Although I have been gluten-free for a while, my parents refuse to go gluten-free. I have a violent reaction, so despite how badly I want something, I never willingly cheat. Still, it makes me terribly resentful when my father brings home Chinese food that I cannot eat. He knows that is my favorite, with the Hot-Sour Soup and Rangoon, and flaunts it and taunts me. It takes all of the power I have not to strangle him. He is definitely not worth going to jail for considering all I would inherit from either of these people is debt.

I do get some pleasure from knowing he could be destroying his intestines, however. laugh.gif It serves him right. You see, both of my parents may have it. They just refuse to try the diet, or admit that is the trouble. They also complain that I should go out and get a job, because despite the fact it is their fault I keep getting glutened, and since people who have cancer work I should, too. Yeast is another issue I have, so I have to avoid vinegar, cheeses, fermented foods, and peanut butter. I love PB&J!

Luckily, Kinnikinnick makes a great gluten-free, yeast-free bread that tastes like biscuits our healthfood store on the east side of town has. I can get Smucker's Simply Fruit Grape Jelly, and some cashew or almond butter. It is very good! By the way, Jif is gluten-free, as is Welch's Grape Jelly. In fact, here is a little gift for you.

I have a list that should really help. This is overwhelming. I went through this with myself in August of 2006. You spend most of your day cooking and cleaning obsessively. The rest you are on the phone with reps from companies trying to find out what is safe. I decided to save you the trouble!
1. There are a number of things in the regular grocery that are safe. Some things are labeled already. Wal-Mart's Great Value brand has numerous things you can eat.
2. For the love of God use Coupons on items you are allowed to eat. People can get them and print them out online even. Call some of the local stores and ask if they accept online coupons.
3. Check the ads online and in the newspaper. You would be surprised how many people do not do this.
4. Some items like rice flour and rice noodles are safe to buy at the Chinese or oriental market. The merchants are more than happy to help you if you cannot read the label.
Now, here is my list of great things to get you started:
Condiments:
Smart Balance Margarine*
Crisco Shortening
Crisco Oil
Pompeiian Olive Oil
Great Value soy sauce
Heinz Ketchup
Lea & Perrins Worchestershire Sauce (all Lea & Perrins Products are safe)
Sweet Baby Ray's Barbecue Sauce
Kraft French Fat-Free Salad Dressing
Kraft Thousand Island Fat-Free Salad Dressing
Pace Picante Sauce
Ortega Salsa
All Classico Red and *White sauces
All Jif Peanut Butters including Smooth Sensations
Welch's Grape Jelly
Cool Whip*
Philadelphia Cream Cheese*
Miracle Whip
Daisy Sour Cream (fat-free, low-fat, regular)*
Snack Foods:
Utz Potato Chips (Found at Sam’s Club)
Lay's Stax Potato Chips (Do not get any other kinds, these are the only ones made on dedicated lines)
Act II Microwave Popcorn
3 Musketeers candy bars *
Butterfinger candy bars*
Reese's Peanut Butter Cups*
Meat and Protein :
Eggs
Great Value Frozen Boneless, Skinless Chicken Breasts
Extra Lean ground beef
Carl Buddig lunchmeats all are safe
Kraft Cheese Shredded or sliced (Kraft is a great company, they never hide gluten in their labels. If it does not say wheat, barley, oats or rye, then it is not in there!)*
Jell-O Gelatin Cups (Will clearly label gluten if present, due to it being a division of Kraft)
Jell-O Pudding Cups (Will clearly label gluten if present, due to it being a division of Kraft)
Cereals:
Cocoa Pebbles
Fruity Pebbles
Dora The Explorer Cinnamon Stars
Seasonings:
Durkee Cinnamon-ground
Durkee Ginger-ground
Durkee Chili powder
Durkee Vanilla Extract (in fact, all of their liquid flavorings, food colorings, and extracts are g.f.)
Emeril's Essence - Asian, Italian
Ortega Taco Seasoning (In fact, since they are under a very strict labeling policy, all of their products are gluten free at this time)
Miscellaneous:
Ortega Taco Shells
Starkist or Great Value Tuna
Butter Buds
Great Value Soy Milk
Lettuce
Tomatoes
Apples
Pears
Carrots
Great Value Canned Fruits and Vegetables
Del Monte Canned Fruits and Vegetables
Ore Ida Tater Tots
Ore Ida French Fries
Hormel Chili
Hormel Spam
Hormel Turkey Spam (Oven Roasted and Smoked)
Hormel Pepperoni
Dinty Moore Beef Stew
Jimmy Dean Fresh Taste Fast Sausage (links, rolls, and patties)
Plumrose Bacon
PAM Non-Stick Cooking Spray (all except for PAM for baking; it has flour)
Beverages:
Diet Rite
Folgers Coffees (all including Cappuccinos)
Luzianne Tea (We get decaf)
Arizona Teas
Ocean Spray Cranberry Juice
Some Household Items that are safe include:
Cascade Dishwashing Detergent
All Laundry Detergent
Wisk Laundry Detergent
Dawn Dish Soap (all including the Power Disolver)
SoftSoap Hand Soaps
Murphy's Oil Soap
Hygiene, Cosmetics, and Beauty Items:
Dove Soaps, Shampoos, Conditioners, Lotions, and Styling Aids (Will clearly label gluten if present)
Crest Whitening Expressions Toothpastes
Biotene Mouthwash (all)
Suave Soaps, Shampoos, Conditioners, Lotions, and Styling Aids (Will clearly label gluten if present)
Maybelline (Gluten is clearly labeled when present)
CoverGirl (Gluten is clearly labeled when present)
Wet'n Wild (All except for one of the mascaras)
Olay Quench Body Lotion
Crest WhiteStrips
L’Oreal Vive Pro Shampoos and Conditioners (Clearly label gluten if present)

* Includes dairy
I hope this helps!

Sincerely,
NoGluGirl
bobohead
QUOTE (NoGluGirl @ Jan 26 2008, 04:31 AM) *
Dear bobohead,
I am so here with you! Although I have been gluten-free for a while, my parents refuse to go gluten-free. I have a violent reaction, so despite how badly I want something, I never willingly cheat. Still, it makes me terribly resentful when my father brings home Chinese food that I cannot eat. He knows that is my favorite, with the Hot-Sour Soup and Rangoon, and flaunts it and taunts me. It takes all of the power I have not to strangle him. He is definitely not worth going to jail for considering all I would inherit from either of these people is debt.

I hope this helps!

Sincerely,
NoGluGirl



NoGluGirl

Thank you so much that is such a big help! I really want to thank you for taking the time out to write it all out for me, that will save me a few days on the phone! I am sorry that your parents are not on board with the gluten free diet, I know that has to make it extremely hard. But at least there is this site, which helps alot, if it werent for this site i would probably be glutening myself alot. You seem like a very strong person to be able to resist extremely hurting your father.

THank YOU Everyone!!!
cmom
Jin,
I am so sorry that your parents antagonize you this way. I am lucky to have understanding parents. Mom always tries to have several things I can eat when she prepares food. She doesn't totally understand all the cross contamination issues, but she tries. Your parents remind me of my "in-law" family. Lots of gluten filled dishes, continually ask me if I want some. Say things like "I know you WON"T eat it, but..." like I'm just being difficult. Never do they say, "I know you CAN'T eat it." Hang in there and there is always hope that things will improve. rolleyes.gif
imsohungry
Hi there Jodi,

Gosh knows we have all been tempted. It is not easy to stick to being gluten-free, especially in the beginning. But over time, you learn your own coping techniques and the lifestyle isn't near as difficult as it is in the beginning. I can honestly say that this becomes a way of life and you seldom notice that your diet is modified.

My mother didn't understand the necessity of adhering to the diet for the longest time. And now, she makes a real effort to cook gluten-free when I'm coming over. But it was SOOO frustrating in the beginning!

Something that I do, whenever I'm craving something I can't have, is pull out my favorite candy bar (so many are naturally gluten-free). This isn't exactly the healthiest thing to eat, but on occasions where I'm really struggling to resist something, a candy bar is a great way to treat myself for my strength!

I think everyone has offered great advice. Take care of yourself and vent when necessary.

-Julie smile.gif
Respira
This may sound crazy, but when I have and absolute craving that won't leave me alone I do this mental thing. I sit down and close my eyes and imagine I am eating whatever it is one delicious bite at a time, my brain must have a very good memory for tastes because when I do this I can actually smell it and taste it...sometimes it has seemed so real I'm actually afraid of getting a reaction...lol

Crazy I Know!
JNBunnie1
QUOTE (Respira @ Jan 27 2008, 10:40 AM) *
This may sound crazy, but when I have and absolute craving that won't leave me alone I do this mental thing. I sit down and close my eyes and imagine I am eating whatever it is one delicious bite at a time, my brain must have a very good memory for tastes because when I do this I can actually smell it and taste it...sometimes it has seemed so real I'm actually afraid of getting a reaction...lol

Crazy I Know!



Oh my god I do that too! I can perfectly remember almost every taste, it's helpful when you're trying to recreate something. And Julie (I'm Julie too, by the way) the Whole Foods gluten-free Bakehouse cookies are really the best gluten-free cookie I've had yet, including my homemade. Way more satisfying to me than a candy bar, and less sugar. And cheaper when it comes down to it, huh. I can't buy them regularly anymore because, surprise, I keep eating them!
imsohungry
Well Collette, Respira, and Bobohead,

I, too, am a sniffer and memory-eater. If I smell something long enough, I often feel full.

The same thing happens if I'm cooking a big dinner. Once I've been in the kitchen cooking for awhile, sometimes I no longer want what I made. Just standing over the smell of the food has changed my appetite. huh.gif

Bizzare, but true stuff. Glad to know I'm not alone! My husband teases me that I'm a hound dog...sniffing a trail. rolleyes.gif

-Julie
bobohead
So i put the sniffer to work, and it has been working, Havent craved anything in a few days. Sean still doesnt quite understand the cross contamination thing either, but he says he is willing to get 2 of everything if its needed..lol we were talking about peanut butter yesterday and he wanted me to eat some of it, but it was CCd so i couldnt..lol I think he is starting to realize how important this is to me, and how hard it is as well.
Discovery
QUOTE (Ridgewalker @ Jan 25 2008, 07:15 AM) *
Vent away, Jodi! We know how you feel.

I am lucky, and had virtually no withdrawal, and have no problem with cravings. BUT-- what gets me the worst is the convenience factor. I miss being able to just pick up dinner and not have to worry about what to cook...

Both of my kids and myself are gluten-free. On busy days, when we're out shopping and running errands till late... There have been a couple times that I've been nearly in tears at the thought of going home and having to cook dinner... when it used to be an option to just grab pizza and everyone would be taken care of.

Most of the time it's ok, but sometimes it just sucks-- no doubt about it.

But I really do feel a little better about it every day. Now every once in awhile, I'll pick up food from Wendy's- a bunch of burgers with the toppings, fries, no buns- and we put the burgers on homemade buns when I get home. As long as I have buns made, this is still pretty convenient.

And you just really do get used to it. It just takes time.

Thank you for your levity...I am smiling BIG TIME smile.gif don't know how to get the smiley icon to appear....a GREAT visual of "smelling" the burger...I identify. I guess one could say I may have to eat a gluten-free diet, but I can still smell everything else, as much as I'd like to!

sincerely, struggling in CA with post-gluten-free diet symptoms

In any case, I feel your pain. A couple nights ago, my husband made himself chicken sandwiches (breaded, on soft white buns) and Velveeta shells and cheese.... I asked him to hand me his plate, and I just stood there and SMELLED it for a few seconds. LOL.... pitiful...

luvs2eat
QUOTE (sickchick @ Jan 25 2008, 03:00 PM) *
First of all I have CRIED over stupid things like sandwiches I understand that frustration cool.gif

Second I am a chronic sniffer. It started at Christmas, I sniff all the food everyone else is going to eat and then I am totally fine! wink.gif laugh.gif

Be well!
sickchick


I am a sniffer too!! I pick up rolls and bisquits and bring that smell DEEP into my nose/lungs!

It takes time. I've actually bawled over what I'll never have again and what I've never tasted and never will.

Then I remember that people die of terrible things and I have to be on a stupid diet. My life is easy.

Ya just gotta learn to cook differently. I don't feel deprived nearly as often as I did in the beginning.
psipsina
QUOTE (luvs2eat @ Feb 1 2008, 08:25 PM) *
I am a sniffer too!! I pick up rolls and bisquits and bring that smell DEEP into my nose/lungs!

It takes time. I've actually bawled over what I'll never have again and what I've never tasted and never will.

Then I remember that people die of terrible things and I have to be on a stupid diet. My life is easy.

Ya just gotta learn to cook differently. I don't feel deprived nearly as often as I did in the beginning.


Its really weird but I like the candles that smell like baked goods. My husband thinks I'm torturing myself but most of your sense of taste is really smell anyways so it make sense that smelling stuff would be satisfying in some way. I'm addicted to yankee candle.
imsohungry
Looks like we have four chronic food sniffers and one candle sniffer. biggrin.gif

A few days ago I was at my mother's house and she had bought a bag of whole grain "specialty" bread. I just had to sniff...and then once more...oh, what the heck, a third time...

And then, my craving was gone and I ate corn chips.

Hang in there bobohead (Your screen name is hysterical). Hope things are going better for you.

-Julie smile.gif

NoGluGirl
Dear Jodi,
I get extremely frustrated with my situation. Having my parents refuse to go gluten-free is very problematic. I have to go through an absurd amount of effort just to eat. They do not pay attention, and treat me like a hypochondriac. mad.gif Dad got into my sinus pills this morning, and I hope to God he did not cc them! unsure.gif I am glad your husband might finally be coming around some.

Restraining myself is not easy a lot of the time. I do not know why self-centered people are allowed to have children. This is an injustice to the people who actually could not have children that cared and would do anything for one! I am trying to find ways to make my life easier and minimize the risk of cc. That means having to do all of the food prep and cooking while my parents are not home.

You are so welcome for the list! wink.gif Anything that simplifies this transition is good. Cooking in foil bags is helpful, too. I am concerned about metals, so I need to avoid using aluminum much anymore. Why does it have to be so darn convenient? laugh.gif I make sure to put one of those colored dots you get for yardsales and then others know which peanut butter or applesauce is yours.

Dear cmom,
That is wonderful your parents try to help! smile.gif If only more people were understanding! The protocol is exhaustive enough. We certainly do not need anything else complicating our lives. Speaking of, how is your son? Is he doing any better?

Dear Everyone,
Memory eating is something I do, too! It does not get rid of the cravings, though. Visualization is a good technique, but the smell makes me want to eat them more. I am trying to invent a Swedish Meatballs recipe. It seems fairly simple. I will let you know how it turns out, since I am working on a cookbook.

Sincerely,
Jin
ISGoddess
Thanks for the great list -- I have a yeast issue, too. But to top it off, I'm allergic to rice! Thank God I like beans and tolerate bean flours well. My recreation cooking goal for this winter is quinoa sushi.
NoGluGirl
Dear ISGoddess,
You are very welcome for the list! wink.gif Yeast is awful! I have made some progress taking FloraStor, which is a type of yeast. This helps push out the Candida. You can get it at the pharmacy at CVS or Walgreens. I also found it at Wal-Mart for $15 less. Quinoa sushi sounds interesting.

I am not sure I tolerate beans. It is difficult to say. Nothing seems to be setting well right now. I may have additional intolerances, or it could be Lyme. That is something I need testing for. Hopefully, that will happen soon.

Sincerely,
Jin
RiceGuy
QUOTE (NoGluGirl @ Feb 3 2008, 01:49 PM) *
I am trying to invent a Swedish Meatballs recipe. It seems fairly simple. I will let you know how it turns out, since I am working on a cookbook.

Oh boy! Thanks for reminding me - I haven't had Swedish Meatballs in...a looooooong time! Those egg noodles, all smothered in that sauce...

OK, so now I gotta pick up where I left off with my veggie meatball recipe...
NoGluGirl
Dear RiceGuy,
I have found a recipe for Swedish Meatballs online, but the recipes still contains dairy. Gluten is my major problem. Anything high in lactose is to be avoided, but I cannot wait to make some Swedish Meatballs!
I know you will be able to come up with a great dairy-free version. smile.gif Chinese food is fairly easy to modify to the gluten-free diet. Since the Chinese do not eat much dairy, that also makes it easier. Let me know how your recipe turns out when you get around to trying it!

Sincerely,
NoGluGirl
cmom


Dear cmom,
That is wonderful your parents try to help! smile.gif If only more people were understanding! The protocol is exhaustive enough. We certainly do not need anything else complicating our lives. Speaking of, how is your son? Is he doing any better?



Sincerely,
Jin
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My daughter-in-law and I still believe he is gluten intolerant b/c blood tests and biopsy were all negative but he still has issues. He is sick from sinus/cold issues often which I believe is due to a compromised immune system but, unfortunately, he goes by what the doctor says and doesn't think celiace is a problem.
NoGluGirl
Dear Robin,
The sinus issues point to dairy for sure at least. sad.gif If you are Celiac, it is very likely your son is as well.
My parents refuse to accept the fact the disease is genetic, and will not even try to gluten-free diet. Some people will make up any crap just to eat what they want. It blows your mind, doesn't it? blink.gif

Sincerely,
Jin
Genie75
Keep gluten free snacks around you at all times if possible. I love all kinds of dried fruits, dried mango, sun-dried figs, dates, nuts, seeds. Carry your special treats with you every where you go. Keep you own special gluten free stuff to eat when you get the cravings. That's what I try to do, cause I am most likely to inadvertently eat something with gluten in it, when I'm real hungry and can't find gluten-free food around.

Rice cakes are a real good substitute for bread although they are hard and crumbly which is a pain. But you can put all sorts of spreads on them.
AliB
You know, what the great majority are completely oblivious of is the fact that EVERYONE is affected by gluten.

Those who ridicule you and make fun or try to thwart your efforts are also themselves affected by Gluten. They would never even consider that their Rheumatoid Arthritis, or their Fibromyalgia, or their IBS, or their headaches and Migraines, or their general debility is due to Gluten.

Hybridisation over the centuries has changed the Wheat particularly, from a simple protein structure into the more complex protein (Gluten) grain that the body is unable to process properly. Becoming Celiac is just one 'dis-ease' caused by this problem, which usually doesn’t show up until the digestion breaks down completely. Because the body cannot process it, it is rendered toxic to the body. The body then becomes unable to function to properly digest and absorb nutrients effectively, because the nutrients are not being absorbed the organs and cells cease to function effectively and people then start to experience the results through whatever illness they have a genetic weakness for, whether it be Celiac, Diabetes, you name it.

Gluten Intolerance has a knock on effect that will come out one way or another.

Also, compounding the problem is the ingestion of sugar. When sweet things were consumed as an occasional treat using honey as a sweetener which is very nutritious, people were a lot healthier. With the advent of empty calorie sugar consumption, came disease. The body is naturally created with the ability to cope with some sugar, but not in the way it is eaten today. People will have sugar in their drinks, sugar in and on their cereal for breakfast, sugar with their lunch, sugar with their dinner, and nibble sugar all through the day in snacks. We are sugar junkies. If we feel deprived because we can't have bread, or cakes, or biscuits, what do we have instead? Sugar. When I started, I went out and bought a load of Gluten-free foods. They were absolutely packed in sugar!

Candida, which is much maligned, is part of the natural flora of the gut. It is a yeast and its job is to process sugar. The more sugar we eat, the more bacteria like Candida has to grow in order to compensate, the more unbalanced the body becomes. Eventually the Candida reaches a stage where it is so out of control it starts to cause even more damage to the body.

Cutting Gluten is, unfortunately, only part of the problem. If we want to be well, we have to cut out not only Gluten, but Dairy, refined Carbohydrate and sugar. It may be possible, once the body is back in balance that it will then cope with small occasional treats of sugar and lactose in Dairy.

I am really trying to retrain my brain to see sugar as a poison, because that is what it really is doing to my body. I am trying to focus on savoury, with whole, plain, unadulterated protein, fats, organic vegetables, a little fruit, plain herb teas (not concocted) and spring water and it is beginning to pay off. I do not feel brilliant at the moment, but I know it is because my body is actually starting to slough off the toxins and poisonous accumulation of the last 50 years! It's as if my body has heaved a big sigh of relief and said, "at last, now she's stopped poisoning me I now have the opportunity to get rid of all this muck"!

We have the ultimate control over our health. It has everything to do with what goes in our mouth! We have to remind ourselves that we are not the ones who are deprived. It is those who stuff themselves with those Gluten, Carb and sugar packed treats that are actually the ones who are depriving themselves. Of good health.

There will always be some who somehow manage to get away with it. But millions don't.
NoGluGirl
Dear Genie75,
All of those fruits sound good! smile.gif I have to be careful about dried fruits due to their natural mold content. Stupid yeast! mad.gif Having snacks handy is key to getting through this. I make sure to have a stash of treats for emergencies. I always have to keep something in my purse in case I go out, because of my low blood sugar.

Dear AliG,
You hit the nail right on the head! Gluten is dangerous to the neurological system. In fact, dogs should not eat it, either. I read online while doing research about seizures (our Yorkie has them), that this one vet has had a 100 percent success rate of stopping epilepsy upon removing gluten from his patients' diets. For some reason, we are not surprised, are we? laugh.gif

So many people make up any ridiculous reason to keep eating the junk they eat. My parents both have arthritis, my father has sinus issues, and was an infant that failed to thrive. He also had ulcerative colitis for a number of years as a young adult. My mother spit up formula as an infant, as did I and my brother, as well as my aunt and uncle. She takes an unbelievable amount of pills a day, only to still suffer from colon problems. Migraines also run in her family. My grandmother, aunt, mother, and I get them. Despite this, my parents say that they are fine. I suppose my brother and I got Celiac from a mosquito bite? rolleyes.gif

It is so true that we turn to sugar to replace the gluten. I did that, as did so many others on this forum.
Refined sugar is very addictive. Certain chemical properties of it really do cause a reaction like a drug. Natural sugars are definitely much healthier. Pure maple syrup, honey, beet sugar, and date sugar are my favorites to use when I want to treat myself. Being hypoglycemic makes it difficult for me to go low carbohydrate.

Yeast does have a bad reputation. As you mentioned, it is naturally present in the intestines. Normally, in a healthy person, it is helpful. Those of us whose immune systems are fragile are who end up with an overgrowth. I was on at lleast two courses per year of antibiotics for Bronchitis from birth until the age of 17, plus later steroids were added for treating asthma. Luckily, I stopped using those about the time they put me on the Depo-Provera shot. That of course is another factor in the yeast overgrowth. When you have had five ovarian cysts in less than 10 months, there really did not seem to be many options. sad.gif

I have made some headway killing the yeast off. Taking a supplement called FloraStor (Saccharomyces Boulardii Iyo) along with AccuFlora or Acidophillus Pearls has assisted in getting things moving. Dietary changes also went in conjunction with this. Although I still have a ways to go before I am rid of to excess amount of yeast, I no longer have foot odor that smells like vinegar or pickles, and body odor that smelled like onions and garlic even when I had not eaten any. smile.gif I was always so afraid people would smell it on me.
No matter how much I washed and applied deoderant, the horrible odor was still there. When your body is full of toxins, this is typical.

Sincerely,
Jin

AliB
QUOTE (NoGluGirl @ Feb 5 2008, 11:22 AM) *
So many people make up any ridiculous reason to keep eating the junk they eat. My parents both have arthritis, my father has sinus issues, and was an infant that failed to thrive. He also had ulcerative colitis for a number of years as a young adult. My mother spit up formula as an infant, as did I and my brother, as well as my aunt and uncle. She takes an unbelievable amount of pills a day, only to still suffer from colon problems. Migraines also run in her family. My grandmother, aunt, mother, and I get them. Despite this, my parents say that they are fine. I suppose my brother and I got Celiac from a mosquito bite? rolleyes.gif

It is so true that we turn to sugar to replace the gluten. I did that, as did so many others on this forum.
Refined sugar is very addictive. Certain chemical properties of it really do cause a reaction like a drug. Natural sugars are definitely much healthier. Pure maple syrup, honey, beet sugar, and date sugar are my favorites to use when I want to treat myself. Being hypoglycemic makes it difficult for me to go low carbohydrate.

Yeast does have a bad reputation. As you mentioned, it is naturally present in the intestines. Normally, in a healthy person, it is helpful. Those of us whose immune systems are fragile are who end up with an overgrowth. I was on at lleast two courses per year of antibiotics for Bronchitis from birth until the age of 17, plus later steroids were added for treating asthma. Luckily, I stopped using those about the time they put me on the Depo-Provera shot. That of course is another factor in the yeast overgrowth. When you have had five ovarian cysts in less than 10 months, there really did not seem to be many options. sad.gif

I have made some headway killing the yeast off. Taking a supplement called FloraStor (Saccharomyces Boulardii Iyo) along with AccuFlora or Acidophillus Pearls has assisted in getting things moving. Dietary changes also went in conjunction with this. Although I still have a ways to go before I am rid of to excess amount of yeast, I no longer have foot odor that smells like vinegar or pickles, and body odor that smelled like onions and garlic even when I had not eaten any. smile.gif I was always so afraid people would smell it on me.
No matter how much I washed and applied deoderant, the horrible odor was still there. When your body is full of toxins, this is typical.

Sincerely,
Jin



Hi Jin. You mentioned about being Hypoglycemic. I used to have that problem for years before I became Diabetic.

Hypoglycemia is an indication that the body cannot process sugar properly. The answer is not more sugar but less. Although it would take some work, I am pretty

The liver and pancreas controls the blood sugar level in the body. If it falls too low, the liver releases glycogen to counteract the fall and bring it back up. Between the Gluten consumption and the sugar intake, the liver gets sluggish and doesn't react as quickly as it should, hence the hypos. If you feel that you are becoming a little on the low side your body would cope better with having some protein. It helps to stabilise the blood sugar and avoids the troughs and peaks that carbs cause. If you start the day with a protein breakfast rather than Carb you would find that you do not suffer with the Hypos.

When we eat carbs the sugar level goes up, the Pancreas kicks in to bring it back down. A little while later we get hungry and have more carb, etc. - the cycle continues to repeat itself all day - up and down like a yoyo. It is exhausting to the body and depletes us of energy. By eating protein, that does not happen and blood sugar stays level throughout the day.

Gluten and Sugar are the two most evil things we can put into our body. They are at the root of most, if not all our Western illnesses. If the body is able to function optimally we are far less likely to suffer illness or disease.

What is the point in dropping Gluten only to ingest Sugar instead? People who do that are just exchanging one set of problems for another! I keep seeing posts from people who say, " I was getting better but now I've gone backwards", or "My 'whatever' cleared up but now I've got another symptom". It's like taking backwards steps. We need to get back to basics first. Don't just stop the Gluten, dump the rubbish too! We can start then with a fresh palate, then perhaps find that we can introduce other things back in like a little sugar and Dairy, once our body is back into balance and better able to cope with it.

We can spend a fortune on Pills and potions for Candida. The ONLY thing that will stop it is to stop eating sugar. It will die back to a minimal level and as long as we keep our sugar consumption low, the Candida will live quite happily with all the other flora without becoming a problem. It's job is processing sugar. We eat more sugar - we get more Candida. You want an intestinal fungal overgrowth? Eat loads of sugar. Simple as that.

I hope you can manage somehow to win your parents round. I watched my lovely Mum die a long agonising death due to Gluten Intolerance/undiagnosed Celiac and I would not wish that on anyone. I do hope your parents wake up to the damage it is doing to them and can also adopt a Gluten-free life before its too late.
NoGluGirl
Dear AliG,
What you said about hypoglycemia turning into Diabetes is so true! My doctor told me that people will eat all kinds of sugary foods to get their blood sugar up again, and this makes them gain weight and become diabetic. I know how addictive sugar is. I have had a terrible time with it. I am doing better with it than I was, but maybe my blood sugar was not low and the shaking and other horrible symptoms were my body detoxing from it? Withdrawal is not uncommon.

I am going to start the 6 Week Body Makeover soon. They do not allow sugar on it. I think this could not only help me get in better shape, but aid me in getting the yeast back into balance. The past week, I have been more accomodating to the yeast, and that is ending now. Junk in any form is bad.

As you said, primarily basing the diet off of fruits, vegetables, and meats is key to feeling well. That is what I did in the beginning, and felt much better the first couple of months. Then, I did a course of antibiotics, and went back to square one and stayed there. I may also have Lyme, which impairs your body's ability to detox on its own. Reactions to the chemicals in foods may be part of my trouble. That is why simplicity is best.

I am so sorry to hear about your mother. That is so sad. I have warned my parents about Cancer.
Celiac is dangerous, and my mother has terrible stomach issues. She can still have colon problems despite taking four prescriptions and an OTC remedy! This is not normal, but she will not go gluten-free. Dad is even more stubborn than she is.

Sincerely,
Jin
bobohead
Hello everyone, sorry i havent been in a while, trying to get ahead in school, since we are going to begin our adventure soon.

Imsohungry, The screen name is a nickname I have had since i was old enough to butcher words...lol My mom used to say hodi jo, and all i could say was bobo, so bobo became the nickname, which evolved into bobohead...

Anyhow my friend introduced me to UTZ potato chips, and i fell in love!!!! they are so delicious, she is aware of the gluten-free lifestyle because she used to babysit someone with autism and they had him on a gluten-free diet. the sniffer is still working, I find that i sit in the bread aisle at wal mart alot...lol it smells sooooo good. and that helps the cravings.

back to the sinus thing, I am dealing with a sinus problem right now, mainly due to the change of weather, we went from below freezing to 60-70 degree weather over night, and my poor body just reacts bad when that happens...I hope everyone is doing wonderful!!!
JNBunnie1
You know, I used to sniff things a lot, and now, as time passes, it's getting to where the smell makes me nauseous. I think it's psychosomatic, but at least I'm less sad when walking down the bakery aisle.

My sinuses used to behave badly at the slightest provocation as well, the longer I'm gluten free, the better my body behaves. I also don't have seasonal allergies anymore, maybe a sneeze here or there, but no need for drugs. I am still allergic to cats though..... Humph.
NoGluGirl
Dear bobohead,
I was wondering what spawned your nickname! smile.gif Now I know! My nickname was Boogie when I was little. I loved to dance even when I was three! I used to tell my mother as I got older not to call me that, because it made me sound like a booger! laugh.gif

UTZ are good! I normally get Lay's Stax, but any form of fried food is limited. I had my gallbladder out, and cannot eat much fat without getting sick. UTZ are very natural, and are probably much healthier than the Stax. If you and UTZ decide to get married, let us know! wink.gif

Sinuses are a major issue for me as well. Some people say dairy is the main cause of this. I have a lot wrong, so who knows? Still, I am going to give going without dairy another go for two months instead of six weeks like the last time. I heard it can take that long for your body to detox from dairy.

Dear JNBunnie1,
I get nauseated smelling a lot of baked goods, too! ohmy.gif Some of it is due to the yeast. Other times, I think our body knows the gluten makes us ill, and we get a response from smelling it. At least, this is what I figure. Just thinking about eating bread makes me feel bad.

Sincerely,
Jin
flourgirl
Not long ago while visiting relatives.....one perpetually teased me with all of the foods they were eating that I couldn't have. He thought he was being funny, and really (I hope) meant no harm. When I finally felt I couldn't take it any more I said, "Gee, I don't offer you RAT POISON, do I? It's the same thing here. These foods are poison to me." It was enough to get his attention, get him to think, and get him to stop. Sometimes people just don't understand. How can these yummy, healthy foods be so hurtful? Unless they have to deal with it themselves, they don't get it. By the way.....when I have those cravings and feelings of not fair, I use that analogy for myself. It may as well be rat poison. I never, ever want to be this sick again!
NoGluGirl
Dear flourgirl,
My relatives are very cruel with it. They also treat me like a hypochondriac. mad.gif It is impossible not to feel hateful toward people who do this. These toxic relationships are best severed. All of that negative energy pulls you down and is hurtful. I love you is a phrase that means nothing and is only three hollow words at times.

Sincerely,
Jin
JNBunnie1
QUOTE (flourgirl @ Feb 13 2008, 07:30 PM) *
Not long ago while visiting relatives.....one perpetually teased me with all of the foods they were eating that I couldn't have. He thought he was being funny, and really (I hope) meant no harm. When I finally felt I couldn't take it any more I said, "Gee, I don't offer you RAT POISON, do I? It's the same thing here. These foods are poison to me." It was enough to get his attention, get him to think, and get him to stop. Sometimes people just don't understand. How can these yummy, healthy foods be so hurtful? Unless they have to deal with it themselves, they don't get it. By the way.....when I have those cravings and feelings of not fair, I use that analogy for myself. It may as well be rat poison. I never, ever want to be this sick again!


That analogy is something I use too. When people questionme about, Oh, such a tiny bit won't hurt. MY response is always, well, how much rat poison would you be willing to eat?

Anytime you have a craving, I have lots of recipes! There's usually someone on the board who can figure out a replacement that's awesome.
fedora
No matter how much I washed and applied deoderant, the horrible odor was still there. When your body is full of toxins, this is typical.

NuGluGirl,
Wow, is that true? I attributed that to hormones!! I am very hormonal person, and while pregnant and pregnant my oder would be sooo strong(which is normal). Definately want to know more. I wash my armpits and they still smell so strong, though not necessarily bad.
NoGluGirl
Dear fedora,
Yes, that is true! I was so afraid whenever I went out, that someone would smell me. I have high hormone levels as well. Having a yeast overgrowth really made my feet smell like vinegar or pickles, and underarms had the odor of garlic and/or onions even when I had not eaten any! A reason your body odor may have been so strong while pregnant is because pregnancy hormones can cause yeast to over populate in the body.

Sincerely,
NoGluGirl
P.S. Fedoras are my favorite hats!
PixieChinchilla
I'm a chronic sniffer to! But I'm also VERY OCD about even being around gluten, so I try not to get too close when I'm sniffing. I've been gluten free for almost four months, and I'm still sick all the time, every day. It's been a struggle, but I'm almost 100% sure that gluten is not the only thing I cant handle, since right now I'm on an almost only potato diet because everything I eat makes me sick.

But when my boyfriend makes sandwiches or something for his lunches I always lean over his shoulder and just LOOK at them. He thinks I'm totally insane, but is really supportive of everything. He always asks questions about whether certain things are okay or not, and stops eating gluten at least a couple hours before he's going to see me, as well as doesn't eat gluten while I'm around, AND brushes his teeth before I come over. He wont give up his gluten, and I dont expect him to, but he knows that it's been really hard for me to give up so many of my favorite foods, so he tries really hard not to rub it in my face. lol.
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